Liz and TJ are the founders of the Full of Joy Animal Sanctuary. It’s a sanctuary run on vegan principles and on a not for profit basis by volunteers. It provides forever homes to animals in need, including pigs, goats, ponies, chickens, turkeys, geese and sheep. In this episode, Liz and T.J. reveal unique insights into human behaviour and attitudes towards other animals … and what needs to change.
Defra is mentioned in the episode. This is the UK government’s Department for the Environment, Food & Rural Affairs.
Episode chapters

05:07 TJ, Liz, what they do and why
07:23 Animals are not toys or objects
09:19 The XL bully dog crisis
11:17 Pigs are never “micro pigs”
12:46 Treat animals as individuals and seek their consent
17:00 Factory farming
18:11 Ponies & horses are not motorbikes
19:55 Introducing Morgan the cat
23:27 The biggest challenge:limited capacity
26:57 Succession
27:44 Difficult not to take an animal in need
28:30 Bringing joy to those who can be helped
30:23 Stop irresponsible breeding
34:26 Bird flu
34:53 Farmed animals or pets?
35:38 What should government (DEFRA) do?
37:18 Speciesism & commodification of animals
41:23 How to help Full of Joy Animal Sanctuary
46:05 Thanks to TJ & Liz
48:41 Outtro & donation information
Ways to support Full of Joy Animal Sanctuary
Shortly after the discussion, Storm Éowyn destroyed the entire stables. Understandably, Liz and T.J. are appealing for financial help to get back to being fully operational. Their crowdfunding appeal has gone well, but they still need more. So please donate if you can via the crowdfunding link from the Full of Joy website or via the sanctuary’s Ko-fi page.
Other ways you can volunteer your help if you live in the Calder Valley of West Yorkshire, UK:
- Cuddling pigs
- Making crafts
- Picking up poos
- Fundraising
- Admin/ paperwork
- Maintaining/posting to Facebook, Instagram, Kofi
Full of Joy Animal Sanctuary social networking
- Blue Sky: @fullofjoysanctuary.bsky.social
- Facebook: Full of Joy Sanctuary
- Instagram: fullofjoysanctuary
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This episode is part of the 2025 Podcasthon. More than 1000 podcasts will raise awareness of charities of their choice between March the 15th and 21st. Podcasthon has grown in two years from a French initiative involving 300 podcasts to a global movement through which voices come together to amplify the work of charities and inspire change.
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